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Which fish is better? (332 replies) |
 sidhe |
 May 19, 2007 07:17 PM
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we all know that fish is good for our pets. i know it's best to feed those sort of smaller fishes that can be fed whole as the bones give calcium also in addition to the omega oils. BUT which fish is better?
i've been thinking of feeding those tiny white fish called white fish or silver fish, can't remember correct name, but they don't seem to have much bones in them, seems less even than ikan billis.
and better to cook a bit or just give totally raw? if raw, how about existing bacteria? i understand animal stomach acids will take care of that.
should get our resident natural food guru paimao to give his feedback. 
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 Paimao |
May 21, 2007 04:12 AM
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You & Me, I and dog
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Boon Lay
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No lah, not guru lah, just happens my breed of dogs do very well on fishes.
From Tom Londale's website and book illustration, he seems to suggest feeding whole fish (whichever type) even bigger than the dog is ok.....the concept behind is just to let them exercise the jaws and cleans the teeth as well. The fish should come in whole, fresh and alive whenever possible, then u dun have to worry about the bacteria thing - scales, gills, eggs and fins all in. If u dunno how to pick a fresh fish, NTUC have signs boards teaching consumers to at their fish counters.
Depending on the dog breed, there are some fishes especially good with some dogs.....like water dogs will thrive in good health when fishes forms part of their diet. Those dogs that are native in sea lands as well as breed for doing water activities like the Portuguese water dogs, poodles, Labrador etc will do better with fishes from their native lands. And I've heard frequent trip to the sea helps in their skin and coat also.
Regardless of what type of fishes u feed, it must be fresh and the size must be big enough for them to chew or small enough to swallow in whole. The former seems better conforming to Londales practice. Even though my dogs can eat small fishes like a seal while I throw at them, this should not be done without knowing how their digestion and feeding habits are. And this method won't make them exercise their jaws or clean their teeth either.
If u cook, then u are better off giving them just the meat, because the bones will be dangerous to be fed.
But be very careful as not all fishes contains all the amino acids that the dog requires, u can feed fishes in every meal but include others as well. Again variety is the key to good health. 
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| sidhe |
May 21, 2007 10:06 PM
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paimao does it again.  thanks!
i was thinking of feeding in addition to kibbles. i've read that other than salmon, white meat fishes are recommended too.
what about those dried small fishes that are sold as snacks for dogs? good too? i've been using them as treats.
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| Paimao |
May 22, 2007 12:40 AM
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You & Me, I and dog
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those are dried anchovies. If your dog have not been taking in any form of iodines, u can feed them as treats. Dried food contains a higher amount of phosphorous so plus the calcium content of whole fishes they are actually quite good as a source of iodine.
BTW, does anyone have seen fresh sardines sold anywhere?
Edited by Paimao on May 25, 2007 at 01:33 AM
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| sidhe |
May 25, 2007 12:55 PM
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anyone else feed their doggies fish?? pls share!
ps - for those who might wonder, this is about feeding fish in addition to usual food and not solely by itself, which would not be good anyway.
fresh sardines - if can't get in wet market, how about plain canned ones (without anything added)? someone also recommended using those canned fish for cats.
Edited by sidhe on May 25, 2007 at 12:58 PM
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| bo3008 |
May 25, 2007 01:35 PM
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Hi,
I feed my dog steamed salmon deboned. Occasionally, I will get those silver fish you mentioned and mixed it with rice and kibbles. He loves the fishy taste!
My friend even get those big fish head from wet market for her dog. It's really meaty and sweet (I think it's the kind we used for fish head curry).
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| sidhe |
May 25, 2007 03:52 PM
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welcome bo3008! how long have u been feeding ur dog? any difference u noticed before and after? what breed?
does ur fren cook the fish head first or give raw? i guess her dog must be a big one then.
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| bo3008 |
May 26, 2007 09:19 AM
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My dog is only 7 months old, have been feeding fishing at least once a week (normally about 3-4 times a weeks mixed with other stuff) since I got him at 15weeks old. Sometimes I will feed him just fish (one big piece about 150-200 gm) and little kibble (or rice) for two three days straight. About his coat......I think he has fuller and denser coat ?
Oh, my friend's dog is a shetland, not a big dog. But she will steam it and debone it too. And since it's the head, there is less fine bones, lot safer for the dog. I heard her dog enjoy it cos it's really tasty and it doesn't burn a hole in the pocket.
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| stergeR |
May 28, 2007 05:35 PM
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Little Miss Pony
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Quote: anyone else feed their doggies fish?? pls share! ps - for those who might wonder, this is about feeding fish in addition to usual food and not solely by itself, which would not be good anyway. fresh sardines - if can't get in wet market, how about plain canned ones (without anything added)? someone also recommended using those canned fish for cats. Edited by sidhe on May 25, 2007 at 12:58 PM--- Original message by sidhe on May 25, 2007 12:55 PM I have checked on those canned sardines.. All contain salt leh.. unless u dun mind a little salt in them..? While tuna in water, all contain salt as well except one... PM me if u are interested.
But when it's canned, those fatty acids are reduced to levels similar to white fish rather than the level of an oily fish.
So far i have tried fresh salmon fillet, sardine, long tail tuna, mackerel, cod fish, dory fillet and toman fillet...
I will try to add in her kibble (TW lamb) + nupro once daily... as i do not supplement her any form of oils...
ermm..i need some advice from Master Paimao.. Do u think its enough or supplement with salmon/flaxseed oil will be much better than in natural food form? PM me if u still could not find any fresh sardine? TIA..
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| Paimao |
May 28, 2007 07:37 PM
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Boon Lay
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dun quite understand your qn leh? R u asking do u still need any other form of supplementation if u are on natural food?
In natural food, we dun call it supplementation anymore, because we usually already supplied all the essentials. Its only when u feed commercial food that only pack so much in a bag then u need supplementation.
If u are already feeding salmon, why u want to use flax for Omega 3? Salmon is already an excellent source of O3 that comes naturally, so give more flax for O3 is really wasting your money. Unless u want other benefits from flax, then u can just use accordingly. And that is the wonders of natural feeding, because all foods have their own natural goodness and when u covers enough of them, u dun need supplementation anymore.
If u want to feed tuna, pls make sure your dog can take the oil, because tuna is a super oily fish like the eel also with loads of calories, so not every dog can tahan. Double coated dogs like shetland and above are ok, if not better give sparingly. And feed fresh if possible. There is only 1 tuna can in the market packed with spring water, and the results I dun really like, poo out all black colour, i.e all lousy protein sources. If feed for filling purposes then ok, else dun use it as a staple meat source.
If u got lobang for fresh tuna and sardine then I'm interested to know also...I usually get from Carrefour for fresh tuna and sardine only in AU , local all never see. Got lobang share share with us also.
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