Electric-Collar (30 replies) |
 ruthiel |
 Nov 14, 2007 04:14 PM
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if only the tots in my heart can be heard
Guru
 Pasir Ris
Since Jul 24, 2007
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hi ruthbaby, how i'm gonna do it can be troublesome.
i'l probably install a webcam or use 2 3g phones to help in tis. wl do it at d lift lobby outside. so once he's going for trash, i'l then buss it.
mag is one thg but he's tore off 2 cushion zips n even bit off d metal portion.
tried confining him but he'l jump out of his safety gate. i'v done extension using play pen fence, he also try to jump out till the whole gate collapse.
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| ruthiel |
Nov 14, 2007 05:09 PM
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if only the tots in my heart can be heard
Guru
Pasir Ris
Since Jul 24, 2007
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he's already on trg.. when he's arnd ple... he's fine... but when he's alone... he'l create havoc. no point disciplining him after tat...
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| vivianlee |
Feb 8, 2010 10:39 AM
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live life to the fullest.... :)
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Paya Lebar
Since Sep 24, 2007
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Hi, I need to seriously consider buying an electric collar (with shock). My hubby's dog growls and bites. 
Any idea if they are available in Singapore? And how much do they cost?
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| paws4life |
Feb 8, 2010 09:09 PM
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Yishun
Since Aug 21, 2008
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Shocking a dog can have 2 different effects --- either the dog becomes fearful & obey OR it becomes more aggressive.
Do find out what's causing your dog to bite before trying to train him without proper guidance on your own. It would be good if you can engage some trainer to teach you the proper way to use the electric collar if that's wat you want to use on your dog.
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| vivianlee |
Feb 9, 2010 10:44 AM
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Paya Lebar
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thanks for your advise...
we are at a loss with the dog's aggressive behavior. 
His growling + biting is triggered off by the following:
1) when he knows that someone is going to hit/beat another person or himself (we suspect he was abused by his previous owner) 
2) when he is eating/protecting his food.
3) when someone tries to carry him whilst standing (he thinks the person wants to sneak on him)
4) when you pat him (gesture of lifting up hand makes him feel threatened)
He turns from Dr Jekyll  to Mr Hyde  instantenously when any of the above 3 scenerios takes place.
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| westie_folks |
Feb 9, 2010 11:14 AM
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If he's been abused previously, using electric-collar is not fair to him. It'll very likely to result in even more aggressive behaviour. That's how he protects himself when he feels threatened. I'll suggest you get a trainer who knows behaviour correction and uses positive reinforcement (ie. no punishment). If you need some reference, PM me for my westie's trainer's info. My westie needs no behaviour correction, but her trainer does provide the service.
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| rusalki |
Feb 9, 2010 03:10 PM
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Putting a shock collar on your dog MAY help get rid of his aggressive behaviour OR it may make it WORSE. Before you jump into training figure out WHY your dog is acting in a certain way. Only then can you tailor your solution to fit the problem. Zapping a dog just coz you've seen it work elsewhere may have terrible results on your dog (and I believe this will be the case with yours).
Your dog is clearly acting this way because of certain fears it has. Likely as a result of past abuse. Dogs often act aggressively as a tactic to scare away something it is afraid of - if it growls at something that is scary, and that something moves away, it will have learnt that growling at scary things works and it should do it again to make scary things go away. That is what your dog is trying to do.
1) when he knows that someone is going to hit/beat another person or himself (we suspect he was abused by his previous owner) FEAR OF PEOPLE
2) when he is eating/protecting his food. RESOURCE GUARDING (MAYBE STARVED PREVIOUSLY?)
3) when someone tries to carry him whilst standing (he thinks the person wants to sneak on him) FEAR OF PEOPLE
4) when you pat him (gesture of lifting up hand makes him feel threatened) FEAR OF PEOPLE
The thing you should work on is gaining your dog's trust. Going slow and showing him people won't hurt him. Build his confidence with people. YOU learn how YOU should treat him. Don't pat his head, pat his chest instead. Move slowly when you're near him. Don't lean over him. All these behaviours on YOUR part freak the dog out. Zapping a dog isn't going to make his fears go away. INSTEAD if your timing is so much as a split second off when you press that zap button, you will make matters so much worse. The last thing you would want is for your dog to associate the pain from the zapping with YOU or the sight of any other human being.
As westie_folks has suggested, training the dog using positive methods is best. You don't need to instill any more fear in your dog. He already fears you and is acting out aggressively because he is scared of you and people. You should instead try to create positive associations for the dog when it comes to people.
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| paws4life |
Feb 9, 2010 05:40 PM
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Yishun
Since Aug 21, 2008
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Totally agreed. Instead of patting him from the top, train him to chin touch. It's very useful to get him to come near & be touched by humans. If you need help, PM me.
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| vivianlee |
Feb 9, 2010 10:32 PM
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live life to the fullest.... :)
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Paya Lebar
Since Sep 24, 2007
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Thanks all, for ur advise...
The problem is: I have developed fear that this dog will bite anytime! Even when u dun expect it! This is cos he has bitten me, & left a permanent scar on my hand. Sure I will feed him, but I doubt I will want to chin rub or pat him like I would anymore... Cos I don't trust a biting dog. If he were a big breed like Rottweiler, he'd have been put to sleep already!
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| rusalki |
Feb 10, 2010 09:39 AM
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Then don't pat him. And make sure no one else does. If you are not willing to train him because of your fears, and those are understandable ones, it would be very unfair to expect your dog to change when HE also has deep seated fears caused likely not from just ONE incident of abuse but over a period of time. You are afraid of him after he has left one scar on your hand, he has likely many permanent scars left on him psychologically. Just feed your dog - throw him treats, hand feed his food (kibble by kibble), give him time to trust people again. If you cannot handle him, get a trainer. BUT even then, YOU will need to put in the time and effort to train the dog. Dogs don't become great pets with no effort on its owners.
When did you get this dog incidentally?
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